• Marie Murphy

The Beauty of Conflict for Couples with CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke

Updated: Feb 25


CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke

CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke are the Co-founders of Thrive! Inc., a boutique coaching and consulting firm that helps leaders, teams, individuals, and couples work through conflict and use it to achieve positive outcomes. CrisMarie is an Olympic rower and Leadership Coach with an MBA from the University of Washington. Susan holds an MA in Applied Behavioral Sciences and is a Relationship and Equus Coach. Together, CrisMarie and Susan are the authors behind The Beauty of Conflict and The Beauty of Conflict For Couples, and they also co-host the podcast, The Beauty of Conflict. Some of their business clients include Fortune 100 companies such as Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft, AT&T, and Nationwide.





Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke discuss what conflict actually means—and why it’s not such a bad thing

  • How to uncover the unconscious rules and expectations you bring to a relationship

  • The barriers to addressing conflict and how to break them down

  • The 5-5-5 tool: how 15 minutes can change your relationship

  • CrisMarie and Susan share their concept of relationship math

  • Why it’s okay to disagree and how we can all become better listeners

  • How the need for certainty can lead to false judgments

  • What kind of impact is the pandemic having on relationships?

  • Susan talks about the rewards of engaging in conflict instead of avoiding it

  • The need for more honest conversations about relationships and other sensitive subjects


In this episode…

Most people don’t like conflict. In fact, many of us try to avoid it at all costs. When it comes to relationships, conflict is usually thought of as bad. But, what if conflict was actually a sign of a healthy relationship?


CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke don’t shy away from conflict—in their relationship or in business. At their coaching and consulting company, Thrive! Inc., they encourage other couples, teams, and individuals to face their fears and break down the barriers to addressing healthy conflict. In their opinion, happy relationships are not always easy—and that’s okay.


Join Dr. Marie Murphy in this episode of Your Secret is Safe With Me as she sits down with CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke, relationship experts and the Co-founders of the coaching and consulting firm, Thrive! Inc. Listen in as CrisMarie and Susan help dispel common myths about conflict, share a 15-minute exercise that may just save your relationship, and explain how to do relationship math. The results might surprise you! Stay tuned.

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